Hey, @AROD, I'm the guy who snagged your 3,000th hit. Any chance for a follow back? It would mean a lot to me.
— Zack Hample (@zack_hample) June 23, 2015
The Greedy Pinstripes:
I think the first question my readers and Yankees fans everywhere want to know is are you a Yankees fan or would you consider yourself a general MLB fan?
Zack Hample:
I'm not a Yankees fan, but I'm not your typical Yankees hater either. I know it might sound weird, but I don't have a favorite team. For the last twenty years, I've rooted more for individual players, probably because I've attended games at 51 different major league stadiums and gotten a bit jaded in the process. Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera were two of my all-time favorites, not just on the Yankees, but in all of baseball, so whenever they were directly involved in the game, I rooted for them. I still root for the team in certain situations depending on who's hitting, pitching, etc.
TGP:
Can you put into words how much of a tug of war is going on inside your head right now when faced with the question of whether to give the ball back or not?
ZH:
The president of a major auction house told me that the ball could be worth $500,000, but you know what? On a personal, sentimental level, it's worth much more to me than that, so I'd rather keep it than sell it. Of course it's also worth a lot to Alex Rodriguez, so I'm taking that into consideration and considering all my options, including using the ball to raise a whole lot of money and awareness for my favorite children's baseball charity, Pitch In For Baseball. The point is, this is a HUGE decision, and I'm incredibly conflicted.
TGP:
Can you share some and maybe explain the spectrum of the uproar you are receiving by Yankees fans and non-Yankees fans alike? I assume your most hateful responses have come from Yankees fans, are they any that are “PG” enough that you feel comfortable sharing?
ZH:
Bald Vinny has said the nastiest things on the biggest platform. I don't care to repeat them here, nor do I feel like getting into a war or words. I can deal with being insulted, but I don't appreciate false accusations, so I'd like to let everyone know that I don't knock over little kids. Despite what Vinny and various media outlets are claiming, it's simply not true. Come watch me during batting practice for five minutes or for the next twenty-five years and you won't see me knock anyone down. I've never done it -- not once in more than 1,200 games! It's not who I am or what I do. Before every single pitch is thrown, I glance to my left and right and often look over my shoulder to make sure I have some room to move in case a ball flies my way. I'm hyper-aware of my surroundings and take special care not to cause physical harm to anyone.
TGP:
Do you have any regrets for reportedly tweeting out, to paraphrase, that if you caught the 3,000 hit home run ball you would give Alex a “dummy ball and the finger?”
ZH:
I deeply regret that. I didn't have many followers then, and of course I had no idea that I'd actually end up snagging the ball, so I was just trying to be snarky. But it was a dumb, unnecessary, negative thing to say. Most people say things that they wish they could take back, and for me, this is it.
TGP:
I think everyone would like to hear your stance on Alex, the game of baseball in the steroid era and his repeated offenses and how it’s affected and shaped the game.
ZH:
Some of my favorite players of all time -- guys I practically worshiped as a kid -- turned out to be steroid users. It really hurt, and I instantly stopped rooting for them. A-Rod is no different. I understand that many people, especially Yankees fans, still love him, but I hope that people will respect the way I feel.
TGP:
If you can get into it and name specifics what are some of the things that the Yankees have offered you?
ZH:
Initially they offered me a chance to meet A-Rod, have my own press conference at Yankee Stadium, appear on the YES Network during the game, receive Legends tickets and all sorts of signed memorabilia including balls, bats and jerseys. I told them I appreciated it, but that the ball was worth more to me than anything they could possibly offer. I had no intention of selling it at first. I was actually planning to keep it forever because it really was THAT meaningful to me. At the very least, I knew I needed to leave the stadium that night with the ball still in my possession. I needed to think about it.
TGP:
Has Alex Rodriguez tried to contact you directly in any way?
ZH:
No, and I'm sure he won't. The Yankees said I could meet him if I give the ball back, so if he were to reach out to me, that would diminish their offer. I don't blame A-Rod for staying out of it.
TGP:
Would this have mattered at all to you if you were the one to catch Derek Jeter's 3,000th hit and not A-Rod's 3,000th hit?
ZH:
If I had caught Jeter's 3,000th hit, I still would've wanted to leave the stadium with the ball and think about it. I don't think that's unreasonable.
TGP:
For those who haven’t heard about your blog, ZackHample.com, and your books, "How to Snag Major League Baseballs", "Watching Baseball Smarter" and "The Baseball: Stunts, Scandals and Secrets Beneath the Stitches,"tell us how that came about and maybe share a few trade secrets for those of us who have not read the books or seen the blog.
ZH:
I wrote my first book, How To Snag Major League Baseballs, when I was 19. It was my dad's idea. He was a writer, so he helped me brainstorm and then organize my ideas into an outline. The next book, Watching Baseball Smarter, was his idea too, but he didn't help in any way until the first draft was complete and I wanted his opinion. The third book, The Baseball, was my own idea. My publisher approached me and said they wanted me to write another book, so I worked with them to develop the idea. Then I signed a contract for it up front, quit my regular job, and worked on the book full-time for 18 months. Trade secrets in terms of snagging baseballs? The number one piece of advice is to make sure you have some room to move. I always make sure not to get trapped in the middle of a long row of people, but at Yankee Stadium that's tough because it always so crowded.
TGP:
Surely you have a fourth book in the works after this whole A-Rod ordeal, any ideas for a title?
ZH:
I'm considering a bunch of different ways to write about the whole A-Rod thing and share the story with everyone, but I'm not sure if it's book-worthy.
TGP:
How many baseballs have you caught as of doing this interview?
ZH:
Including batting practice and all the various ways that I get them, my current total is 8,172. That includes 159 foul balls during games, 32 home runs, and one ground-rule double.
TGP:
Will your foul ball grabbing record ever be broken and where do you think your 10,000th ball will be caught?
ZH:
It's certainly possible for someone even crazier and more obsessed to break my record, but I'd say it's unlikely. Camden Yards is my favorite stadium, so I'm thinking it'd be cool to snag my 10,000th ball there.
TGP:
Is the A-Rod ball the highest profile ball you’ve caught? Do you think it is worth the most monetarily?
ZH:
It's the highest-profile ball by far -- no question about it -- and I would say that it's worth more by itself than my entire collection.
TGP:
We’ve heard stories of you catching Barry Bonds 724th home run ball and consecutive home runs inside Yankee Stadium in 2008, which would you say in your favorite memory? Is there a milestone home run ball we missed or don’t know about?
ZH:
Prior to A-Rod's 3,000th hit, my favorite ball that I caught was the last home run that the Mets ever hit at Shea Stadium. I also caught a Derek Jeter homer in 2012. That was his 3,262nd career hit. And here's another random one that remains as one of my most cherished baseballs: the final out from Mariano Rivera's 313th career save. Later in his career, he saved all the final-out balls, but at that time, he used to toss them into the crowd when he walked off the field.
TGP:
This isn’t really Yankees related but how did the whole controversy over Mike Trout’s first home run ball come about and how do you think you got stuck in the middle of it?
ZH:
I'm not aware of any controversy. I caught his first career homer in 2011 at Camden Yards, and I gave the ball back to him after the game, no questions asked, other than to be the person to hand it to him.
TGP:
Tell us about the charity work that you do with “Pitch in for Baseball” and the work you do with BIGS Sunflower Seeds and your fans to donate money to underprivileged children so they can have baseball and softball equipment.
ZH:
Since 2009 I've been using my collection to raise money for Pitch In For Baseball, a non-profit charity that provides baseball and softball equipment to underprivileged kids all over the world. Basically, people pledge money for every ball that I snag -- kind of like how your friend will run a marathon and ask you to pledge some money for every mile -- and it all goes to the charity. I've raised nearly $40,000 with the help of BIGS Sunflower Seeds, who sponsored me in 2013 and sent me to all 30 stadiums and made a large donation to the charity. If people Google my name along with the word "charity," they'll find more info about how it works.
TGP:
Speaking of charity and interviews, is Conan still the worst interview you’ve done since all this went down? Also how many interviews do you think you’ve done since catching the 3,000 hit ball?
ZH:
Yup, Conan was the worst. When I tried to talk about the charity, he cut me off twice, and when I forced it into the conversation, he made fun of me. He wasn't interested in anything I had to say -- just making me look bad and getting laughs. I did 16 interviews the day after snagging the A-Rod ball, and I've done approximately 35 more since then. There are still at least 100 interview requests that I haven't even responded to. I needed a break this week, so I went to a couple of Yankee games and then spent an evening hanging out with friends. I've also had to stop scheduling interviews because I'm losing my voice.
TGP:
Is there anything you want to say to the Yankees fans directly? The stage is all yours.
ZH:
I'm sorry for the negative comments I made about A-Rod. If you guys can forgive him for using performance-enhancing drugs, I hope you'll forgive me for some of the dumb stuff I've said. The Yankees have been so kind to me throughout this whole process, as have most of the fans I've met in person at the Stadium, and I truly appreciate that. I'm hoping to work out a way for A-Rod to get the ball back and for the charity to receive a huge donation and for myself to get some cool experiences and perks at the stadium, but it's taking time. That's why it's dragging on -- not because I'm holding the ball for ransom or trying to get more interview requests. If you see me at the Stadium at some point, please don't hesitate to come say hi.
Zack, thank you so much for probably the most interesting and most hyped interview I have ever done in my years as a blogger. I appreciate you doing this interview for us as the owner of the blog and as a Yankees fan because I was able to get answers to the questions that I and every Yankees fan wanted after the home run was hit. While the saga continues of whether Mr. Hample will or won't give the ball back to Alex we can at least make our judgments now knowing both sides of the story.
I have found a whole new respect for Zack after doing this interview and see him in an entirely new light, I hope that everyone reading this can as well. I told Zack when I asked for the interview privately and I will reiterate it here on the blog, I was hyper-emotional when the ball was hit and it was not immediately given back. Like Zack did, I said some things that I am not proud of and I didn't mean and I apologized to him and told him it was nothing personal, if he hadn't forgiven then I don't think you would be reading this now. I think when all is said and done Pitch In For Baseball will get their donation for a very worth cause, Zack will get more than ample perks at the Stadium, Yankees fans will forgive and forget and Alex will get the ball.
I was one of the first to give you, Mr. Hample the finger and call you pathetic in a tweet that was RT'd more than a few times. I don't like being mean or saying mean things about people and certainly have tweeted my dislike when fans get ugly about our team when we aren't playing so hot etc.
ReplyDeleteBUT for me - I still don't get why this has ANYTHING to do with you " . . . I'm hoping to work out a way for A-Rod to get the ball back and for the charity to receive a huge donation and for myself to get some cool experiences and perks at the stadium . . " As a fan I feel we should be selfless not selfish - I wouldn't even think twice about returning something that wasn't mine let alone work the system because I am all of a sudden entitled to "perks" b/c I caught a player's ball and a CAREER LONG ACHIEVEMENT.
There's a HUGE difference between being offered a gift or a gesture after one has done the right thing in any situation and what I still feel is going on here - you are keeping something from its rightful owner/and or place in history by trying to get as much out of it personally before you "decide" what to do. If the charity is a real cause for you - I bet they would have gotten a whole hell of a lot more attention and donations faster if you had done this a different way.
I'm not sure the comment "if you can forgive AROD for using . . then I hope you can forgive me ...." helps your image either - Again, Mr. Hample - this isn't about YOU and you and AROD should never even be compared in the same sentence.
You wrote your books, you have your secrets, you've caught all these historic balls during legendary moments - sounds like you are doing just fine with the ability to bring money and attention to your charity - SAD that you are using this as an excuse - I can tell you that it's more likely than not that it has brought more negative attention than any positive responses had you acted like not only a fan of sports but as an educated adult.
I'm thankful that you gave this interview to Greedy Pinstripes - that Mr. Hample may have been the only good decision you have made since this happened.
I don't really see Hample turning this into a him thing but then again I am pretty forgiving, open minded etc. (not to say at all that you aren't I am simply making this about me right here lol). I think most fans would want something for catching the ball, did he probably take it too far holding the ball for ransom? Sure, but he see's the error in his ways and is working on making things right. At least he has that going for him, you know?
DeleteI seem to recall that on the back of every sold ticket to the game it says something like this:
ReplyDelete"Balls and bats that enter the stands can be kept by the fans."
Doesn't that mean the "rightful" owner is than said person who catches a ball/bat...?
I will look at and read the language and if this is in fact what it says then I inadvertently used the wrong phrase and legally you may be correct.
ReplyDeleteHowever, Did Mr. Hample purchase the ticket to the game that day?
Was he in the seat or within a reasonable closeness to the actual seat he purchased when he caught the ball that day?
Valid points TBB...
DeleteIf this was just some random ball hit into the stands, then you wouldn't care if he kept it. Therefore, you shouldn't treat this instance of a fan catching a home run ball any differently. If you or I can keep Stephen Drew's next home run ball, Zack can keep this one. Nowhere is it written that the two balls are to be treated differently.
ReplyDeleteIf ARod, the Yankees, or MLB wants to give Zack something in return then that's great. But I do find it off-putting that he would expect something in return. Either be a giver or don't.
One other thing...
Anybody that says "well in this situation I would do..." is full of it. It's like those people without kids that try and tell parents how to raise their children. They don't know, and I wouldn't expect them to, until they walk a mile in a parents shoes.
So while I'm not going to judge Zack as "good" or "bad", I would like to see him either keep the ball for whatever reason, or give it back. But to say you'll give it up if you get something in return is not cool.
Okay this sucks. It's amazing how tough I am in the courtroom but feel like I can't hold my own in this discussion. I do have a tendency to mix legal analysis and personal statements and that provokes certain reactions to my comments. These comments are entirely justified because of my commingling two minds of thought that clearly cannot (and should not) be meshed together.
ReplyDeleteI am taking all legal thoughts about how to analyze this out and leave this as my final and personal thought - I am a very trusting (to a fault) person but something is not right about this - just a gut feeling. I am not (if you believe this is possible) judging Mr. Hample as a "whole" b/c I don't know him from Adam - but I am judging or reacting to his actions in this particular circumstance and I don't get a good feeling about this incident.
Very well done guys, surprisingly civil with intelligent back and forth. Great job guys!
ReplyDeleteWhat is all the fuss about a jerk being a jerk?
I would have given the ball to A-Rod and nobody else. I think most fans can see the logic in that! I have no wish to give it to the Yankees, the reason is simple; Hal doesn't want to pay A-Rod for the HRs so be it...no reason he should get anything for a tainted HR is there?
PEDs or not, hitting that many HRs along with hits is an unbelievable thing to do for anyone. Hal can't understand just how hard it is and can't relate to what it takes to do some of the things that made A-Rod, or any player exceed at their position.
Very well done guys, surprisingly civil with intelligent back and forth. Great job guys!
The Yankees are doing the negotiating for A Rod, the Yankees don't want the ball.
DeleteWell that was a 3 guy and a Chic back and forth (all porn references intended). LOL. Seriously though - I could almost write a book on this because theres a million different ways to look at what happened and there will be just as many more when he "decides". I wish more people responded b/c I always believe that when you either don't listen or don't communicate we lose an opportunity to learn something that could potentially change our lives, our views, for better or worse we miss out when the words stop.
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