Tuesday, December 23, 2014

Every Significant Brian Cashman Trade…. Ever


This took some serious time but I wanted to take a look at every single “significant” trade in Brian Cashman’s tenure as the GM of the New York Yankees and evaluate just how many the Yankees won, lost and pushed on. For the purposes of this article I will highlight the “won” trades in BLUE while highlighting the “lost” trades in RED. If the trade is black then the trade is either incomplete or there was no true winner in my opinion. Let’s get to it.

§  December 72001 traded David Justice to the New York Mets for Robin Ventura
§  July 12002 traded Scott Wiggins to the Toronto Blue Jays for Raul Mondesi
§  July 52002 in a 3 team trade sent Ted LillyJason Arnold and John-Ford Griffin to the Oakland Athletics for Jeff Weaver from the Detroit Tigers
§  June 62003 traded Marcus Thames to the Detroit Tigers for Ruben Sierra
§  August 62003 traded Armando Benitez to the Seattle Mariners for Jeff Nelson
§  May 152004 traded Brian Myrow to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Tanyon Sturtze
§  December 32004 traded Felix Heredia to the New York Mets for Mike Stanton
§  July 22005 traded Paul Quantrill to the San Diego Padres for Darrell May and Tim Redding
§  August 272005 traded Justin Berg to the Chicago Cubs for Matt Lawton
§  November 162005 traded Ben Julianel to the Florida Marlins for Ron Villone
§  July 262006 traded Hector Made to the Philadelphia Phillies for Sal Fasano
§  July 312006 traded Shawn Chacon to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Craig Wilson
§  July 302008 traded Kyle Farnsworth to the Detroit Tigers for Ivan Rodriguez
§  July 302008 traded LaTroy Hawkins to the Houston Astros for Matt Cusick
§  February 42009 traded Chase Wright to the Milwaukee Brewers for Eric Fryer
§  May 162009 traded Eric Hacker to PIT N for Romulo Sanchez
§  July 312009 traded Chase Weems to the Cincinnati Reds for Jerry Hairston
§  January 262010 traded Mitch Hilligoss to the Texas Rangers for Greg Golson
§  July 312010 traded Matt Cusick and Andrew Shive to the Cleveland Indians for Kerry Wood
§  July 312012 traded Chad Qualls to the Pittsburgh Pirates for Casey McGehee
§  July 262013 traded Corey Black to the Chicago Cubs for Alfonso Soriano
§  July 312014 traded Kelly Johnson to the Boston Red Sox for Stephen Drew

49 comments:

  1. Daniel without writing a novel you have missed the boat on so many trades it isn't even funny. First example is the second trade you listed on Mike Lowell. He turned out to be a very good player yet you list that as I win for us. There are so many more that I won't list. You have truly made cashman out to be a good gm and that isn't the case.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The Mike Lowell one is an obvious typo (coloro) as we most definitely lost that trade. You have my apologies.

      Delete
  2. Explain to me how the Granderson trade is a win. The guy hit homers is a strikeout King was ok in the field and batted his body weight for a 20 game winner in Kennedy and a better overall player in Austin Jackson and a lefty arm in Coke. There is no way we won that trade. Daniel I appla you for your effort but there are so many more that you listed as pushes or wins that aren't. This Granderson one is absurd. We gave up way too much for him. In fact Kennedy would've been Cashman's first drafted 20 game winner even if it was in National league

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Because K's are not thought of as being as bad as they once were in the sabermetrics community. Also it's hard to find 40 home run power on consecutive seasons.

      Kennedy won 20 games, in the NL. Kennedy would have never won 15 in the AL East. Coke had a nice couple years and has fallen off since. Austin Jackson was the best leadoff hitter, again, for a season or two and has fallen off.

      We didn't necessarily lose as much as we thought. Again, these are just my opinion. I could be wrong.

      Delete
    2. You also have the Scott Proctor trade as a win with Wilson B, Seriously Wilson B sucked and I still would take the Proctologist over Wilson B even with a dead arm

      Delete
    3. You hit the nail on the head. His arm was dead and he was logging 89 MPH beach balls over the plate six nights a week. You must also remember this was when the Yankees severely lacked versatility in the infield and could have/should have used him as leverage against A Rod when he opted out.

      Delete
    4. You make some valid points and I understand its your opinion but there are so many trades that you have in the black or wins for us that just aren't so. The June 30 trade with Hinske if anything was a wash not a win. Hinske was terrible

      Delete
    5. Hinske was one of the players that put us over the hump and allowed us to win the 2009 World Series. Same reason the Hairston trade was a win for me. They weren't CC, Teix, A Rod, Marte etc. but they played key roles in key spots and we gave up basically nothing to get them.

      Delete
    6. Scott was traded by Cashman (on his own) to save his arm from falling off. Joe T., was told to give him rest but Joe thought he was the boss. He kept running Scott out there so he was traded for almost nothing. I give a hand to Cashman for that. Also for having the guts to make Joe T leave.

      Delete
  3. I'm wondering what the criteria was for deciding who won/lost the trade. Many of these are just open to interpretation. Ken mentioned the Mike Lowell trade, which we clearly lost. Also, I'm not sticking up for Vernon Wells, but how did we lose that when neither of the players we sent over have even seen major league action?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The criteria was stated in the original paragraph as being based on my opinion. Vernon Wells gave us absolutely nothing and we lost nothing, sounds like a push.

      Delete
  4. Can anybody explain why Claiborne got designated and Gonzalez Germen got added to the roster? Claiborne was younger with a better track record.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Probably hoping he passed through waivers and not claimed by the Miami Marlins like they just did. Whoops.

      Delete
  5. That's easy Jeff.. Its Cashman running the show

    ReplyDelete
  6. Fans love to hate Cashman, not me! There are better out there but none would even think of being GM for the Yankees.
    One thing that has bothered me over the years, was the Clique and Joe T!
    There was a Cancer on that team, one which was lead by Clueless Joe T., and (unwittingly, at first) by D. Jeter. There were players traded away because they criticized Jeter and than came A-Rod.
    A GOOD Team Captain would have stopped the whole thing, but he didn't. He, Joe T., and Cashman didn't want A-Rod on the team. So, weekly, we would get innuendos and lies printed about A-Rod...most all of them proven as outright lies! I don't and will not believe Jeter had anything to do with any of it
    Clueless Joe T., got into the HoF for being in the right place at the right time! Hell, he fell asleep in that Cleveland Game when Joba was being bothered by those nats. He came out of the dugout, not even knowing what was going on or if he was making a second trip to the mound...WE LOSE!
    The sports world was shocked when the Yankees made him the manager, he was a BIG TIME LOOSER before and after the Yankees. Damn near anyone could have managed that team for those championship years. He never was a winning manager before or after the Yankees.

    ReplyDelete
  7. I disagree with you on Cashman he bites and there are people that would now love to be GM of the Yankees because they accept not making the playoffs and the pressure isn't there since George passed, otherwise I agree with you on Joe T

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I agree with you Ken H, on a part of what you commented.
      The problem is, why trade a (as you say) a bad GM that we know, for a bad one we don't know?

      Delete
    2. Ken H...
      What is your opinion of Nori Aoki and us signing him...if possible!
      I must confess, I pay little too no attention, to the NL.

      Delete
    3. Ken R. He is not needed. I think we are covered even if Beltran goes down again

      Delete
    4. Aoki was a Kansas City Royal as well, American League.

      Delete
  8. THE PROCTOLOGIST....aka Scott Proctor : Funniest line of the day. Gold star for Ken H.
    Daniels article stirred up a wasp nest. Nice to see.

    ReplyDelete
  9. INFIELD DREAMS :....
    These two items made some ripples on the internet, over the past 48 hours.

    ASDRUBAL CABRERA....2nd base / short stop..Free agent.
    Rumor : He may sign a one year contract, to reset his market value. ( like Drew did last year )
    His role : Keep Gregorious / Refsnyder on track. Or, replace one of them, if one is sent to AAA.
    The casualty ?....Brendan Ryan will have to be dealt.
    Makes sense to me.

    The second one is dreamlike magical :
    Rumor : Yankees again calling Colorado, and checking on Tulowitzki. Jesus, can you imagine ?
    Headley / Tulowitzki ( Ryan ) / Gregorious / Teixeria ( * Jones ).

    A hundred plus games, with Tulowitzki, and Ryan backing up the rest ( the injury factor )...?
    Outstanding. I know we need starting pitching...dreaming....but can you imagine ?

    ( * Garret Jones....the next Roger Maris. )

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I would take Tulo but what do I have to give?

      Delete
    2. For the Yankees to get Tulo, it would probably take Didi, Sanchez, Judge, and Lindgren. At least. And what would we gain? 3/4 of a season of MVP production and another $120 million bad contract. The guy has reached 500 at bats like twice in 9 seasons.

      Delete
    3. I don't necessarily want Tulo or Cabrera. More than comfortable letting Refsnyder figure it out.

      Delete
    4. I hate to say this, mainly because I don't want to invite the wrath of Mr. Hans, but outside of a couple of moves, I actually don't mind this offseason. We have contracts that are absolutely killing us. Arod, CC, Teix, and Beltran. Half our payroll, and barely above replacement value. I think we gave up too much for Eovaldi and Jones. I think we didn't get enough for Cervelli. And I don't understand why we designated Claiborne for Germen. That being said, I'm glad players like Refsnyder, Pirela, Mitchell, and Banuelos will actually get a legitimate chance. Stay away from the Scherzer and Shields type contracts for a couple years. Let's drop this dead money before we acquire more.

      Delete
    5. Jeff come on now. You guys make it like I attack you all. Not true. I present hard cold facts and numbers and I actually agree mostly with your comment above. I think Cashman got fleeced on numerous trades this year, but I chalk that up to him being an inferior GM. However unlike you this business model that was so successful was predicated on you need to spend money top make money and I find it an embarrassment that we get outspend by small market teams. Do we have bad contracts..yes but so do the Dodgers and they continue to make moves. Say what you want but Cashman is not the right guy for the rebuild. He couldn't build his farm system up in 12 plus years and now you guys think he is capable of making trades to get younger and better? Are we younger, yes we are, can you honestly say we are better I think not! I scratch my head wondering why we made a trade for a platoon SS that hits 30 points higher than Ryan and wouldn't have cost us a young arm. I scratch my head why we traded a good bat good glove and serviceable 5th starter for a flame thrower that throws straight that has a career 15-35 mark with over 4 era in the National league who by the way apparently has a bad attitude and doesn't listen to his coaches. Potential doesn't win games, results do

      Delete
    6. I'm just giving you a friendly jab in the ribs. I don't really feel attacked. Everybody on this site is very opinionated and I like that. It leads to healthy debates. Just to clarify though, I don't really like any of the moves Cashman has made. He's sold low on our players, and paid high on players acquired. The reason I say I don't mind this offseason is because we'll be 1 year closer to dumping these ridiculous contracts. Arod and Teixera specifically. You can easily hide one useless player because of the DH, but it's pretty difficult to hide three.

      Delete
  10. Which reminds me, Pirela is a FA next year.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He isn't even arbitration eligible yet... he has zero service time.

      Delete
    2. Sorry Daniel...
      Minor league Free Agent after this year! I took it for granted, it would be so taken...my bad!

      Delete
    3. He was actually a minor league free agent this season but since he was added to the 40 man at the end of September his service time clock started.

      We can thank Prado's appendix for that

      Delete
    4. I didn't see that one, Thanks! Hate to loose a player if he may be of help down the line.

      Delete
    5. Yes sir! We almost did, almost lost a ton of talent this year in the Rule 5 Draft as well. Glad things worked out.

      Delete
  11. ' HANS'EL & GRETEL '...old Fairy Tale characters.
    HANS....lets see if you are linked to those characters / or, if you can carry the water ?

    Nothing is easier than bashing / making fun of ideas put up at this site.
    It can go on ..., but you are better than that. Your words show that.

    I tried before to get you to offer your ideas as to how to improve this Yankee team.
    But, you remain off to the side shredding our ideas, while offering..?
    Don't say I drink Kool-Aid, in truth it is Coors...while you sit sipping Slurpee's.

    You can step up.......What would you do, or trade for to improve this team ? Players.
    You can't move out management, ...so, you don't have to go there.

    This is not an attack, just an gentle elbow to the ribs.

    ReplyDelete
  12. Here is a groin kick to the nuts LOL. Well I have to move out management because they are the ones that put us in this predicament to start with. So even though I can't do it per you I will anyway. I will be stuck with Cashman but instead of hiring a minor league hitting instructor to run my draft and scouting I would have dipped into the Giant's or the Cards front office staff and hired someone away that has the pedicure to know how a successful farms system is built.

    I would not have traded away a young arm that has a nasty sinker and though only one year of MLB experience for a platoon .220 hitter, nor would I have traded away an above average glove and bat and good locker room presence for a straight hard throwing career losing pitcher and a guy with good pop and potential A player for what we gave away.

    You want to rebuild then lets do it right. Tex is my DH and I bring up Snow and make him my everyday 1B. You want to get younger here we go. I would have Prado at second. Signed Drew to one year contract big incentives to play SS. He can't be as putrid as he was at the bat. He is switch hitter and great glove. Signed Headley.

    Trade Gardner and a prospect for a number 2-4 pitcher and the reason I put this down 2-4 is depending on what prospect we give up determines the slotted pitcher. I have no specific team off the top of my head but there are guys on here saying Gardner can bring back good players then do it. I would bring Judge up and platoon him with Young in left. Ellsbury in CF and Beltran in RF and some DH when rest is needed.

    My pitching staff with have been Tanaka, beg Kuroda back Pineda, CC and hope Manny B beats out Phelps or Whitley or Greene if we had him. If Greene lost the competition he would have been in there anyway as CC or Pineda or Tanaka was bound to get hurt in the first week of the season. I would see what Arod can do and if he sucked in spring training I would tell him you won't see the field or an at bat so take the injury settlement and go on your way. It doesn't affect his money as he gets what he is owed. Aroid doesn't have the pride to sit on the bench and I actually think they are gearing up for that if not a pure release. I would sign Shields if the price comes off the 120 Mill.

    You want to get younger I gave you Snow and Judge and some young arms in the rotation along with great D at short and above average D at second and I picked up some money on contracts. Let's be realistic this team is younger and weaker as a unit with suspect trades by Cashman

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Not trying to be a wiseguy, but who's Snow? Do you mean Bird? If so, I'll sign up for that. I want to see Bird at first, Refsnyder at second, Jagielo at third, Judge in left, and Austin in right. If we're going to lose, I want to lose while watching OUR players. Not overpaid and underperforming veterans.

      Delete
    2. Ken H and Jeff...
      I love that idea, play our own guys...sound a bit familiar!
      Another thing is; play our own and we could dump Beltran, C.C., A-Rod and Tex...without raising our Budget at all, or very little.

      Ken, it is hard for the Yankees to get the best coaches to come to the Yankees. We know, Cashman has talked to a few hitting coaches etc., and Minor league people...nothing, as long as they will be over-ruled on things when they try to get someone signed.

      Delete
    3. Just look at the elf running the show and tell me you would want to work for him?

      Delete
    4. As much as I want to see Bird and Judge as soon as 2015 I honestly think it stunts their growth and development more than it helps having them in the major leagues on Opening Day. If they had half a season at Triple-A or some serious time at least in Double-A while dominating then I would be inclined to agree, but I can't.

      As much as I want to.

      Also, Hans, while I don't agree with trading Shane Greene for Didi I get where Cashman was coming from. Greene could be replace on the roster with Bryan Mitchell, in the farm with Manny B, and/or in the free agency market. You're not finding Didi in any of those places. You have to give to get and the mere fact that Didi is younger than Ryan, better than Ryan (even if the stats show a marginal upgrade) and left handed makes the deal worth it.

      That goes without mentioning the inconsistency of Didi's at bats and playing time for most of the season and what that can do to a player, especially a young player sitting on the bench five nights a week and then asked to come hit three out of ten balls where they ain't. It also goes without mentioning that when Didi received regular playing time at the end of the season he batted over .340.

      You don't have to like the trade but the trade for Didi should have been done and should be done the next 99 times it's offered to us. Greene's ceiling was a #3 starter, we have plenty of those.

      Delete
    5. That was one of his good moves, but I still want to see the young guys get a shot at the team going north. I understand why they would take a vet rather than a guy like Pirela, but Pirela can move into other spots and our 4th OF can't. Besides he is 24 years old and should be well enough along to either make it or end up at AA, AAA the rest of his life.
      I can see keeping Bird and Judge down there, at lest for the start of the season, they are a bit younger and many need some at bats against the guys in AA and AAA.

      Delete
    6. This is where you and I disagree the most Daniel. I don't think potentially good players need as much seasoning as others in the minor leagues. Trial by fire. Simple fact, Refsnyder has put up better stats then Cano ever did in the minors. He's ready. Bird also has put up better stats then Cano. Byron Buxton is considered the best prospect in baseball. He couldn't carry Judge, Bird, or Austin's jock strap in the AFL. Bring these guys up because they can play! Stop waiting until they're completely polished, because that will never happen facing AAA pitching.

      Delete
    7. We disagree because you don't realize that the largest, and hardest, jump is from A Ball to AA. If they can make that jump and succeed I have no problems giving them the baptism of fire. I need to see a bit of a sample size in Trenton though.

      Refsnyder is ready, no one beat the drum more for him in September than I. Bird you could make a case for if he wasn't going to come up to simply sit on the bench four days a week, hence hurting more than helping.

      Delete
  13. Ya Bird my bad. I had a Holiday meltdown. Bird is the word. Thanks of rt. correction

    ReplyDelete
  14. Trading away Mike Lowell was pretty bad, too.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'm sure on a long enough timeline every GM trades away a Mike Lowell.

      Delete

Sorry for the Capatcha... Blame the Russians :)